Brian Lorden's Testimonial









                                                                                                             P.O. Box 6559
                                                                                                                                   Utica, N.Y. 1350-6559
                                                                                                                          Telephone (800) 695-1914
                                                                                                                                               (781) 224-2600
                                                                                                                                        Fax (315) 266-4182

   Fischer Engineering
11 Savoy Road
Hamilton, MA 01982


                                                                                                                             September 16, 2009
       To Whom It May Concern:


   It is with great previlege that I write to you in recommendation of Paul Fischer and Fischer Engineering.  During my time
with Kemper Insurance and Broadspire, it's successor company, as supervisor of Worker's compensation I had an opportunity to
use Fischer Engineering on many occasions and was very satisfied with their work. Paul brings a great deal of technical knowledge,
which coupled with his professional demeanor and intellectual curiosity, makes him my "go to guy" on death and other serious
worker's compensation claims.

   I know that I can rely on Fischer Engineering to provide prompt, detailed, in person investigations. Paul's technical input and
advice in claims involving subrogation is invaluable to me. I highly recommend Fischer Engineering for emplyment with your
organization. Paul knows what the claims professional needs and how to deliver timely, cost effective reports that are very useful in
defending claims.


                                                                                           Sincerely,


                                                                                           Brian Lorden,
                                                                                           Claim Supervisor




                                                                                    Utica National Insurance Group